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Across three training methods it matched full fine-tuning, which retrains every weight.\n- The three were reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards, supervised fine-tuning, and on-policy distillation.\n- It learns a binary mask (a keep or delete switch) over the gate projection of transformer blocks, and the trained mask is hundreds to thousands of times smaller than a full checkpoint.\n- Under reinforcement learning, accuracy on earlier tasks stayed near the base level, while full fine-tuning, LoRA (a cheaper fine-tuning method) and random sparse fine-tuning lost up to 5.4 points.","community_id":6,"creator_id":8,"deleted":false,"embed_description":"How little of a pretrained large language model (LLM) has to change for it to acquire new capabilities? We find that zeroing fewer than 0.05% of its weights, with no other modification, matches full fine-tuning (FFT) at scale across three LLM post-training regimes: reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards, supervised fine-tuning, and on-policy distillation. Our method, Deletion Tuning, learns a binary mask over the gate projection of transformer blocks. Two practical advantages follow: the trained mask is hundreds to thousands of times smaller than the corresponding FFT checkpoint, and Deletion Tuning forgets far less, which addresses a central challenge in continual learning. Under reinforcement learning, its prior-task accuracy stays near the base level while FFT, LoRA, and random sparse fine-tuning lose up to 5.4 points. 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